[33353] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: net.terrorism
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Adrian Chadd)
Tue Jan 9 09:25:52 2001
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 21:49:50 +0800
From: Adrian Chadd <adrian@creative.net.au>
To: Sabri Berisha <sabri@bit.nl>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Message-ID: <20010109214949.X79667@ewok.creative.net.au>
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On Tue, Jan 09, 2001, Sabri Berisha wrote:
> > (relaytest.orbs.vuurwerk.nl), then you need a private connection to
> > that specific site, just as many academic sites test unstable network
> > software. Expensive, but shouldn't be too bad considering that both of
> > you are in the Netherlands....
>
> If I want to make sure my traffic gets to that host, I can set up a static
> route to our second uplink. But it's not *me* who should be filtering. How
> do I know which other hosts are being announced and blackholed?
I was just about to say the same thing. I don't quite think of it
as terrorism, I just think its not nice for someone to decide
part of a net block they're passing the announcements for is being
selectively filtered inside their own network.
the host in question isn't even an above.net client - its a uunet
client.
If you have a problem with it, drop announcing the /16 to customers.
When customers complain about unreachability to a site, tell them
that uunet (note *uunet*, not vuurwerk) are breaking their AUP and
they should complain to uunet. You're still 'protecting' your
customers.
I'd rather get partial announcements than traffic-filtered announcements.
That way, my other network pipes (which hopefully have a path without
above.net in it to vuurwerk) will take over. above.net are happy.
vuurwerk is happy. life is good. no bitching or extra configuration.
(oh, and note: this opinion has nothing to do with my employer,
interpersonal relationships or my opinion of orbs. You might be
surprised how unrelated it is.)
Adrian
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