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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel L. Golding)
Mon Jan 8 23:12:53 2001

Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 23:10:59 -0500 (EST)
From: "Daniel L. Golding" <dan@netrail.net>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
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	Barry Raveendran Greene <bgreene@cisco.com>, deen@slt.lk,
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This is an especially strange comment, as almost everyone who peers,
interconnects in multiple places - thus, exceeding the capacity of a
single interface. 

Layer 1 peering (or pooling, as it's more usually known) is great for
interconnecting fiber networks, fast provisioning, and all that. However,
I fail to see the connection between Layer 1 interconnection and an IP
exchange point of any kind. This seems apples and oranges. Layer 2
exchange points are the only efficient way to go for IP traffic. History
and the "invisible hand" of the market have endorsed this path.

Daniel Golding                           NetRail,Inc.
"Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness"

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Randy Bush wrote:

> 
> > Maybe. However, l2 is for telco.
> > 
> > l2 exchange ponints are a labor suck and are fragile.
> > 
> > The right path is l1, though, then, there is less reason to have
> > exchange points.
> > 
> > It will be more obvious as the peering speed between two ISPs exceeds
> > that of a single physical interface.
> 
> glad to have words of practical wisedom from your experience as a large
> provider.
> 
> randy
> 



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