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RE: RFC1918 addresses to permit in for VPN?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jason Lewis)
Sun Dec 31 17:03:47 2000

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From: "Jason Lewis" <jlewis@jasonlewis.net>
To: "'Stephen Stuart'" <stuart@mfnx.net>,
	"'Derek J. Balling'" <dredd@megacity.org>
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Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 16:59:36 -0500
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I am a little lost as to what the real argument is.....

Don't use RFC1918 addresses on public networks.
or
Don't use RFC1918 addresses on as a security measure.

I don't use RF1918 address on public networks, but I do use them on my
backend systems and at some level I consider it a security measure.  Those
backend machines don't have access to the Internet and the private
addressing helps ensure that is true.  Is my thinking flawed?

jas



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of
Stephen Stuart
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 4:41 PM
To: Derek J. Balling
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: RFC1918 addresses to permit in for VPN?



> No, but putting your car on a private road that you need to circumvent
> several roadblocks to reach IS a pretty good deterrent to its being in an
> accident.

I doubt the roadblocks are anything serious in most cases; if all
you're doing is RFC1918 addressing, then source-routing on the
attacker's side can probably make your box theirs in short order. Most
people of this ilk I've encountered think so highly of RFC1918
addressing as a security measure that they blindly assume no other
precautions are necessary. I would hope that no-one on this list would
stoop to *that* level of stupidity. Presenting a "security by
obscurity" argument is bad enough.

Stephen





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