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Re: Port scanning legal

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Shawn McMahon)
Tue Dec 19 19:19:05 2000

Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 19:12:38 -0500
From: Shawn McMahon <smcmahon@eiv.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 05:23:27PM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
>=20
> As always, your mileage may vary.  California law specifically
> states that costs incurred by the victim include
>=20
> 	any expenditure reasonably and necessarily incurred by the
> 	owner or lessee to verify that a computer system, computer
> 	network, computer program, or data was or was not altered,
> 	deleted, damaged, or destroyed by the access.
>=20
> So checking out a scan might qualify.  As for "access", it's defined as
>=20
> 	"Access" means to gain entry to, instruct, or communicate
> 	with the logical, arithmetical, or memory function resources
> 	of a computer, computer system, or computer network

In other words, as written, it means that if you pull up my web page, I can
bill you for my time checking the apache logs to make sure you weren't doing
anything wrong.

And, if you send me email, I can bill you for my time spent making sure it
didn't contain a virus.

I'm thinking that law is easily challenged on the basis of vagueness.


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