[32958] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Port scanning legal
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mathew Butler)
Tue Dec 19 16:03:39 2000
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From: Mathew Butler <mbutler@tonbu.com>
To: 'Dan Hollis' <goemon@sasami.anime.net>,
Shawn McMahon <smcmahon@eiv.com>
Cc: "'nanog@merit.edu'" <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 12:50:57 -0800
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If someone leaves their network open to the scan in the first place, it's
their own lack of due diligence. However, someone going through a hole
that's been detected is bad juju.
-Mat Butler
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Hollis [mailto:goemon@sasami.anime.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 11:46 AM
To: Shawn McMahon
Cc: 'nanog@merit.edu'
Subject: Re: Port scanning legal
On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Shawn McMahon wrote:
> Better lock me up; I can't count the number of times I've nmap-ed
> somebody just to find out what OS they were using, either for personal
> curiosity, or as part of an argument.
Cool. Since you're obviously in the right, how about scanning some
U.S. military networks and letting us all know what OS they are using?
If you like, I'll start an argument with you so you have the justification
you need to portscan.
-Dan
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>If someone leaves their network open to the scan in =
the first place, it's their own lack of due diligence. However, =
someone going through a hole that's been detected is bad =
juju.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-Mat Butler</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Dan Hollis [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:goemon@sasami.anime.net">mailto:goemon@sasami.anime.net</=
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 11:46 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Shawn McMahon</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: 'nanog@merit.edu'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: Port scanning legal</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Shawn McMahon wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Better lock me up; I can't count the number of =
times I've nmap-ed</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> somebody just to find out what OS they were =
using, either for personal</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> curiosity, or as part of an argument.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cool. Since you're obviously in the right, how about =
scanning some</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>U.S. military networks and letting us all know what =
OS they are using?</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>If you like, I'll start an argument with you so you =
have the justification</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>you need to portscan.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-Dan</FONT>
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