[32857] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: NATs *ARE* evil!
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dave Curado)
Fri Dec 15 10:29:04 2000
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:33:08 -0500
From: Dave Curado <davec@weezel.net>
To: Brantley Jones <bjones@nfusen.com>
Cc: Jeff Mcadams <jeffm@iglou.com>, nanog@merit.edu
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ARIN has a (difficult) job to do, and from my experiences they do it
well.
1) You need to follow their rules/instructions
2) You can never supply them with too much information.
3) A good attitude helps.
> Welcome to the club. ARIN is commonly referred to by my peers as the "IP
> Nazi's"...
>
> Brantley
>
> At 12:46 AM 12/15/2000 -0500, Jeff Mcadams wrote:
>
> >Also sprach David R Huberman
> > >> We're currently efficiently (according to ARIN's guidelines)
> > >> utilizing a /20, 2 /23's and a /24. We apply to ARIN for space, and
> > >> what do they say they'll give us? A /20. Period. Someone care to
> > >> explain this to me?
> >
> > >It means you didn't explain your goals clearly enough, I guess.
> >
> >What is there to explain?
> >
> > >If you demonstrate to ARIN efficient utilization of 21 /24s (as you
> > >describe above), you qualify for 32 /24s for renumbering purposes; a /19.
> >
> > >Go back and show them you've used 21 /24s efficiently and ask for
> > >sufficient address space with which to renumber and grow your business.
> > >You'll get a /19 every time.
> >
> >Hello...I'm using *more* than a /20 right *now*. If I had 100%
> >efficient utilization of the IP addresses that we're using *today* I
> >couldn't fit into just a /20. I can't come up with *any* logic that
> >would make sense to renumber into a /20. This information was clearly
> >spelled out on our application. If the folks at ARIN are too dense to
> >add a few numbers together, you'd think they'd at least drop us an email
> >or a phone call and ask a question or two! Sheesh! There is *NO*
> >excuse for ARIN here, what they've done with us has *NO* rational
> >explanation.
> >--
> >Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com
> >Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848
> >IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456
>
