[32812] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Cogent Communications?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (jamie rishaw)
Wed Dec 13 21:57:49 2000
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:53:57 -0500
From: jamie rishaw <jamie@arpa.com>
To: VIIS Network Operations Center <noc@viis.net>
Cc: "Daniel L. Golding" <dan@netrail.net>,
Bill Petrisko <bill@axient.com>,
"'nanog@merit.edu'" <nanog@merit.edu>
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Ah, how quick we are to jump.
Cogent's push lately has been businesses with offices in MTU's across
the united states.
Idea: Get rid of your expensive, low bandwidth frame relay PVC's all
over hell and back, and get 100 megs with Cogent. You save mad cash.
A company that can turn up a new office and have 100 megs bandwidth
to all the other offices for file sharing, e-mail, remote backups, etc,
.. well -- this changes the backoffice-workings of the brick-and-mortar.
Cogent isn't offering 100 meg transit to just anyone for this price
point -- their ideal customer is a company that pays $1500 a month for
a T1 to xyz.com .. and their other ideal customer is a company with
offices in various MTU's that Cogent is in - and getting rid of the
inter-office PVC's and running the network over Cogent's fiber.
Sounds like a good deal to me. We signed up a couple weeks ago to
light up a little over a half dozen offices. The biggest advantage is
not the transit (we do under 5 meg avg), but the office-to-office
communications. Turn up VoIP and there's an added communications savings.
<shrug>
Previously, VIIS Network Operations Center said:
>
> The Cogent contract I've seen is a month-to-month. My suspicion would be
> that they get a critical mass of customers, then start increasing the
> monthly recurring, ala L3.
>
> Grant Kirkwood
>
>
> On 12/12/00 9:54 PM, Daniel L. Golding wrote:
>
> >
> > Indications are that Cogent is an MTU (multi tenant unit) provider, AKA a
> > bLEC, like Cypress or ARC. That's how they will get the necessary
> > economies of scale. Even so, $10/mb is no way to ever brake even. Seems to
> > be an exercise in transitioning money from VC to equipment and fiber
> > vendors as quickly as possible...I was impressed by the folks they had at
> > NANOG, though - seemed like very nice folks. Nice folks with a kind of
> > whacked business model, though.
> >
> > - Dan Golding
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Bill Petrisko wrote:
> >
> >> Has anyone heard anything about Cogent Communications (www.cogentco.com) or
> >> done business with them?
> >>
> >> Their product is a dedicated 100Mbps of transit for $1000/month.
> >>
> >> Quick rundown:
> >> Metropolitan OC-48 rings, with no more than (24) 100Mbit customers
> >> on each.
> >> Nationwide OC-192 rings between the MAN rings with extensive private
> >> peering.
> >>
> >> Any feedback would be appreciated.
> >>
> >> thanks
> >> bill
> >> --
> >> William J. Petrisko (WP5) Network Engineering
> >> bill@axient.com Axient Communications
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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