[32807] in North American Network Operators' Group
transit services over exchange point 'clouds'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steve Snyder)
Wed Dec 13 18:19:35 2000
From: "Steve Snyder" <bgp_dork@hotmail.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:17:32 -0800
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<P>This isn't 100% operational in nature, but I can't seem to get the answer anywhere else, so I'm hoping I can get an answer from this crowd.</P>
<P>I am looking for transit at the moment, and am interested in reducing the cost of the WAN access line, as well as reducing the set of points in my network where I have external non-customer traffic flowing. </P>
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<P>What providers are currently selling transit services over the MAEs? </P>
<P>I am willing to reduce (or write off) the SLA's, and to work with other providers to create an arrangement that makes sense. </P>The Worldcom people no longer have restrictions on what their customers do over their MAE-ATM connections, so it would seem like a smart decision for networks to start selling transit over this, just like any other 3rd-party access cloud-- such as a Verizon Frame Relay cloud, SMDS, etc. Equinix and the PAIX don't seem to have any restrictions on this sort of arrangement either. I am also interested in considering point-to-point cross-connects at the exchanges for transit, but don't know what providers are physically located at the exchanges.
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<DIV></DIV>(we all know that some of the smaller networks have been doing this even since the FDDI days-- often without even setting next-hop-self..)
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<P>I don't want to start any "why would you use ATM" or "Worldcom is good/bad" discussions, but simply want to know if anyone in the ISP space is entertaining such arrangements. <STRONG>****Again, I'm not looking for opinions on a specific exchange operator, or whether or not it's smart on my part to rely on a third-party-- I just want to know if operators out there are offering this.****</STRONG> </P>
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<P>Please forgive what might appear to be a non-operational question-- it's just that the sales people at most of the major networks don't seem to understand what I am asking for, and when they escalate, they don't explain it well, resulting in their engineering or product teams thinking that I am asking for no-cost peering or something. I do recognize that some networks only have peering boxen at the exchanges, and not customer edge routers. I also realize that most exchange points seem to be migrating to multiple locations with a cloud interconnecting them. (in the same region, anyway.)</P>
<P><STRONG>Please send all responses back to me off of this list. If someone is interested in a summary, contact me directly, as I don't plan on posting the results to this group.</STRONG> </P>
<P>Thank you.</P>
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