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[eggnog] Re: NANOG isn't NANOG anymore

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (jamie rishaw)
Sun Nov 19 08:41:28 2000

Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 08:38:33 -0500
From: jamie rishaw <jamie@arpa.com>
To: Craig Klingler <klingler@onramp.net>
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yes

i hereby call for vote to change 'nanog' to EGGNOG.

(the) Eclectic Global Gathering (of) Network Operators' Garble.

yes

let us register eggnog.org.

immediately.


jamie


Previously, Craig Klingler said:
> 
> I'm working with a Japanese Company and for the first time realize what it
> means to say the Internet is Global.  This company has a Tier 1 domestic
> backbone in Japan (covering the country of Japan and connecting to the
> Japanese major peering points).  They also have partial ownership in
> undersea cables (fiber)that extend from Japan to the United States and Japan
> to the UK.  So bandwidth and networking  are not the problem.  I'm sure my
> information is dated, but at one point I thought that 80% of all Internet
> traffic gets switched in the United States.  Now, having studied the traffic
> patterns for our Japanese company and how much of the traffic stays in
> country, I would say I need to see some more data.  But, I think I can
> safely say the United States handles the "lions share" of the global IP
> traffic, and will continue to do so until distributing hosting and caching
> make an impact.
> 
> However, The NA in NANOG shouldn't apply any more.  Political issues aside,
> at least ICANN saw fit to established three governing bodies for naming,
> ARIN, RIPE/NCC and APNIC.  I write this more of an appeal, as this Japanese
> company wants to establish peering (not transit) in the US, and although by
> name, I recognize many of the "good old boys" in the Internet Tier 1
> Backbone discussions, I am not one of them.  I have read this list for some
> time now, but this is my first post.  I have seen conversations ranging from
> graduate school discussions to school yard scuffles, so I am ready for my
> share of daggers.  My question is, how does the Internet get opened up to
> new International companies, such as the one I am working for?  I know this
> has been tried before via Savvis and a recent group that I know Exodus is
> part of.  I also recognize there is as much brilliance in NANOG as there is
> sarcasm.  If this was a business issue, the suits would have made their
> zillions and moved on, which is why I'm writing NANOG.
> 
> Thank You,
> 
> Craig Klingler
> klingler@onramp.net
> 

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