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Re: [doable?] peer filtering (was Re: Trusting BGP sessions)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Fraizer)
Thu Nov 16 04:40:31 2000

Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 04:38:33 -0500 (EST)
From: John Fraizer <nanog@EnterZone.Net>
To: nanog@merit.edu
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Kurt Kayser wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 02:50:37PM -0800, Sean Donelan wrote:
> > 
> > No I'm not suggesting basing it on what a provider is currently 
> > advertising.  But rather on what the provider has registered and
> > is authorized to announce.  The set of authorized routes may be
> > the same or a superset of what the routes the provider is currently
> > announcing.
> > 
> > If you want asymetric routes, you can register and authorize traffic
> > via either route; and then dynamically announce which route you want
> > to use moment to moment.
> 
> How about not storing filter-information in configuration space, rather do
> dynamic lookup via directory-lookups (that could driven by RPSL via LDAP ) ?
> Since a BGP-update is done just near-real-time a split-second lookup would
> certainly not delay the routing-table calculation, but rather provide a
> centralized method to maintain policy information.
> 
> These things change anyway so fast that accuracy is difficult on daily update
> basis. It would also allow very fast elimination of networks that do harmful
> things (spam, DOS, etc..)
> 
> Kurt Kayser
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How do you suppose the router is going to be able to get to the database
server?  It has to have a route to the database server and until it does,
it can not even verify that it should accept that route.

---
John Fraizer
EnterZone, Inc



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