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Re: [doable?] peer filtering (was Re: Trusting BGP sessions)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (gerald@merit.edu)
Wed Nov 15 16:28:10 2000

From: <gerald@merit.edu>
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To: heas@shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:25:59 -0500 (EST)
Cc: oberman@es.net (Kevin Oberman), nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20001115124552.R10339@shrubbery.net> from "john heasley" at Nov 15, 2000 12:45:52 PM
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> > Since Sprint and UUnet don't seem to be willing to provide information
> > in the IRR to allow us to generate access-lists/policies, and not
> > peering with these folks would be a Bad Idea(tm), so we can't quite
> > filter everyone. (If I could figure out a way to get them to register,
> > I'd have fun trying, though.)
> 
> so, the question is how to make registering irresistable?  peering
> contract requirement?  peer pressure? :)
> 

I would be very interested to hear from anyone who has problems/suggestions/
criticisms/etc... with the current routing registry.  In particular,
it would be nice to hear from UUnet, Sprint and those people who
choose not to register in the IRR.

A few years ago the chief complaints were poor data integrity (ie, bogus/old
/stale data), authentication/security and under-participation 
(ie, very few ISP's used the registry).  Yes, these are very serious
problems.

The data integrity problem I am guessing would still be the main
drawback people would cite.

We/Merit have worked hard over the last several years to address
the problems associated with the IRR and continue to do so.  We 
are finally in a position to do something about the data integrity 
problem and expect to implement RFC2725 (ie, RPS auth) by mid-2001
which should have a significant impact.

But things change over time and I would like to hear what people
think.  Criticisms, suggestions, ...?

--jerry winters (Merit)



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