[32154] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: MCI WORLDCOM TO PAY $3.5 MILLION
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sean Donelan)
Mon Nov 13 09:42:22 2000
Date: 13 Nov 2000 06:40:18 -0800
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From: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>
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There are several, off the top of my head
Bay Area DDoS Working Group
BORG
Commercial Internet Exchange
Internet Engineering Task Force
IOPS
IPEG
ISP/Consortium
Information Technology Association of America
North American Network Operators Group
Cross-Industry Working Team (XIWT)
Being a member of a consortium is different from contributing to or
following any recommendation of a consortium. I don't think yet another
consortium is the answer. I believe this has fundamentally become a
management issue (and their legal advisors). Unless and until the various
provider's senior management believe this will substantially affect their
business, nothing will happen.
For the last five years, I've been in favor of a technical solution. I've
changed my position, and believe the Sprint engineers were correct. It is
not a technical problem, and the engineers can't fix it.
There are three basic methods to make it in their business interest
1) Public pressure
2) Government pressure
3) Legal pressure
If Sprint faced a $1 million fine everytime they blackholed someone else's
routes, perhaps they would fix their processes.
On Mon, 13 November 2000, J Bacher wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Nov 2000, Mark Mentovai wrote:
> > Is there a consortium of big-time Internet operators? There should be -
> Preferably not to the exclusion of all others.
