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Re: Defeating DoS Attacks Through Accountability

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mauro Lollo)
Sun Nov 12 18:24:56 2000

From: "Mauro Lollo" <mlollo@hotmail.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
Cc: mrp@connect.com.au
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 18:22:40 EST
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If possible, ARIN, or another "authority" should retain more information 
about the profile of address space, including delegations.  As you noted, 
announcing first and fixing later is like a hit and run, then returning a 
while later to scrape up the fellow off the road.

We just repatriated a portable /24 from a rouge who was using it, supposedly 
telling his upstream that we had "given them permission"......NOT.

I suppose the question is, could a governing body (outside of government), 
ever keep reasonable control over things without the complete obedience of 
providers?

M.

>From: Mark Prior <mrp@connect.com.au>
>To: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>
>CC: nanog@merit.edu
>Subject: Re: Defeating DoS Attacks Through Accountability
>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 16:53:27 +1030
>
>
>      But the current practice of announcing first, and only after you kill 
>some
>      innocent bystander's network, then fixing it; needs to stop.
>
>      Every IP address should be traceable to an original recorded 
>delegation.
>      If the "paperwork" isn't complete or is inaccurate, we should work on 
>fixing
>      it.  Sticking our heads in the sand, and announcing the network until
>      someone complains is not good.
>
>How would you propose to handle the case where an organisation has
>their own IP space which isn't currently advertised and then you
>receive a request from a third party to route it to them?
>
>Mark.
>

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