[32091] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: DoS attacks, NSPs unresponsiveness
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeff Workman)
Wed Nov 8 02:13:49 2000
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 02:09:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeff Workman <jworkman@pimpworks.org>
To: Bill Fumerola <billf@chimesnet.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
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Stoned koala bears drooled eucalyptus spit in awe as Bill Fumerola exclaimed:
> On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 06:00:38AM -0500, Jeff Workman wrote:
<dialog snipped>
> > Customer: You've got to be kidding!
> >
> > Me: Nope, thank you, drive through. *click*
>
> A large IP provider (and construction/mining company) essentially told
> me the above. That was after they turned down my circuit to "stop" the
> attack.
This is the point where I would start questioning whether my business
relationship with this provider is such a wise idea, and also whether or
not this behavior is the provider's policy or just the network engineer on
duty's policy. I pay for bandwith, and for my upstream to at *least* do a
little bit to protect my investment. I understand that if I need more
than an ACL on my router interface that they will gladly (most
likely) sell me a managed firewall package but even without that, I expect
them to get the garbage off my pipe when I notice it. I don't even expect
them to take proactive measures to keep it off my wire, but when I see it,
I expect something to be done about it. If not, then I will let my money
do the talking elsewhere.
Jeff
Representing me, myself, and I.
--
"For competitive reasons we can't tell you the location of our fiber."
-- An anonymous representative of a very large telco
"For competitive reasons we can't tell you the location of our backhoe."
-- An anonymous representative of a contractor.
