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Re: DoS attacks, NSPs unresponsiveness

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Thu Nov 2 10:35:16 2000

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To: Mark Mentovai <mark-list@mentovai.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 02 Nov 2000 09:59:04 EST."
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On Thu, 02 Nov 2000 09:59:04 EST, Mark Mentovai <mark-list@mentovai.com>  said:
> This can't go on forever.  I'd like to spread the clue about ingress
> filtering, and am willing to commit time to the cause.  Is anyone with me?

The problem is that for many ISPs, I fear the only way to get them to
implement 2827-style filtering is for their upstreams to implement a
policy of fascist-mode ingress filtering - "We see a bogon packet that
your site should have filtered, we pull the plug on your link till you
fix it".

Time alone won't be enough.  Bring a baseball bat.  And a spare bat.

-- 
				Valdis Kletnieks
				Operating Systems Analyst
				Virginia Tech



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