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RE: Disabling QAZ (was Re: Port 139 scans)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Roeland M.J. Meyer)
Fri Sep 29 18:05:36 2000

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From: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer@MHSC.com>
To: Dana Hudes <dhudes@hudes.org>,
	"Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer@MHSC.com>
Cc: Dan Hollis <goemon@sasami.anime.net>, nanog@merit.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:46:37 -0700
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I never argued that.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana Hudes [mailto:dhudes@hudes.org]
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 2:43 PM
> To: Roeland M.J. Meyer
> Cc: Dan Hollis; nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: RE: Disabling QAZ (was Re: Port 139 scans)
> 
> 
> that does not give me authority to connect to stranger's PCs
> 
> On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
> 
> > Just like they probably don't know that they're infected, 
> they probably
> > won't know that they've been disinfected. At least the first time.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dana Hudes [mailto:dhudes@hudes.org]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 2:03 PM
> > > To: Dan Hollis; nanog@merit.edu
> > > Subject: Re: Disabling QAZ (was Re: Port 139 scans)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I am willing to scrap together a script to shutdown the virus 
> > > on an infected machine and put it in a CGI web page.
> > > I'm not sure about volume but initially I think I can host 
> > > it. In the event my 1Mbit connection is overwhelmed I'll need 
> > > another place....
> > > What stops me at the moment is that I have no authorization 
> > > to test against any infected machine.
> > > I need a target.
> > > I'm willing to also try for making the connection to the 
> > > share and removing the infection but I'm not sure I can get 
> > > it in time.
> > > At least a shutdown page would do something.
> > > I will start writing my code and await direct e-mail with 
> > > authorization and a target IP address to test against.
> > > Note that I have plenty of potential test targets in my Samba 
> > > logs :-( but no legal authority to connect to those machines.
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Dan Hollis" <goemon@sasami.anime.net>
> > > To: <nanog@merit.edu>
> > > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 4:42 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Disabling QAZ (was Re: Port 139 scans)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, John Fraizer wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Dan Hollis wrote:
> > > > > > It would be cool if someone would make a tool that 
> > > would auto-disinfect
> > > > > > users...
> > > > > Yep.  The problem with that is that current laws on the 
> > > books (in the US
> > > > > at least) make this an illegal solution.  If memory 
> > > serves me correctly,
> > > > > the one I'm thinking about is worded something like:
> > > > > "...any person who without authorization, accesses, 
> > > modifies, deletes or
> > > > > destroys..."
> > > > 
> > > > A web page that users themselves must click "OK, disinfect 
> > > me"? Seems
> > > > authorization enough to me...
> > > > 
> > > > > The penalties are pretty stiff too.  The best of 
> > > intentions don't negate
> > > > > the fact that it's illegal.
> > > > 
> > > > When the user initiates the disinfection themselves?
> > > > 
> > > > -Dan
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 


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