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Re: netscan.org update

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Fraizer)
Wed Sep 27 00:38:18 2000

Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:36:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Fraizer <nanog@EnterZone.Net>
To: Todd Lyons <todd@mrball.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
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On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Todd Lyons wrote:

> John Fraizer wrote:
> 
> > Liken it to the Gas company driving up and down your street with a sniffer
> > looking for leaks (SMURF amps) and someone walking up to every house in
> 
> But do you not consider this the equivalent of using a lighter as the
> sniffer?
> -- 
> Blue skies...		Cannonball  	http://www.mrball.net
> * People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because *
> *   it's safer to harrass rich women than motorcycle gangs.     *
> 


"Well M'am... It looks like your new stove is all set.  Just one more
check.  [click] [click] <BOOM!>  OOPS... Sorry bout that.  We forgot to
set the 'no LP directed-explosion' command on your stove.  We'll get that
fixed right up."


Sorry... I couldn't resist.

I do understand where you may draw that conclusion however.  Testing
for the presence of gas (smurf amplifiers) with a sniffer (single ICMP
echo-request scan) is NOT the same as simply throwing a match at the gas
main (waiting for an attack). 

So, the simple answer to your question is no.

---
John Fraizer
EnterZone, Inc



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