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Re: netscan.org update

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick Greenwell)
Sun Sep 24 13:42:27 2000

Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 10:40:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Patrick Greenwell <patrick@cybernothing.org>
To: Bill Fumerola <billf@chimesnet.com>
Cc: "Greg A. Woods" <woods@weird.com>, nanog@merit.edu
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On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, Bill Fumerola wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 12:05:22PM -0400, Greg A. Woods wrote:
> 
> > The difference is that smurf amplifiers normally only take down IRC,
> > while spam relayers blast us all!  :-)
> > 
> > hmmm....  that would indicate the response should be the opposite, now
> > wouldn't it, or is it that more *network* operators use IRC than email? :-)
> 
> On a more serious note, abusing an open relay server doesn't wreck (as much)
> network havoc on the target and fill the pipes of everyone involved. Spam is
> annoying, being at the wrong end of the attack is devastating.
> 
> Can we get something like MAPS-RBL BGP that we can peer with that exports the
> list of currently known amplifier netblocks?

Avi Freedman talked about setting something like this up a while back, but
I don't think he ever got the time to do so.



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