[31043] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: bring sense to the ietf - volunteer for nomcom
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Nathan Lane)
Wed Sep 6 21:54:15 2000
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Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 19:37:40 -0500
From: Nathan Lane <nathan@terminus.com>
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To: Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>
Cc: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, Yakov Rekhter <yakov@cisco.com>,
nanog@merit.edu
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Masataka Ohta wrote:
>
> IETF, now, means Intelligent Extension of Telephone Forum.
>
Not to offend anyone, but one could say "Imbeciles Extending the
Telephone Forum" could apply to some limited WGs. :)
> Recent introduction, by IETF, of intelligent intermediate entities
> such as edge routers, policy decision points and call agents is the
> direct violation of the end to end principle which causes a lot
> of scalablity problems.
These things should be especially troubling to all of us. No vendor I
have spoken to will make a clear statement of direction on where they
believe the intelligence should be, resulting in a tremendous FUD factor
for those purchasing technology without a solid technology background.
They just end up purchasing it all or none of it.
When it becomes more important for "engineers" to have memorized vendor
product lines rather than technologies to solve business problems, we
have issues like these. It would appear that some have left the realm
of engineering and entered the art gallery.
-Nathan Lane
