[30997] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ARIN Policy on IP-based Web Hosting (fwd)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brandon Ross)
Mon Sep 4 19:40:00 2000
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:38:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brandon Ross <bross@netrail.net>
To: owen@exodus.net
Cc: adrian@creative.net.au, nanog@merit.edu
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On Fri, 1 Sep 2000 owen@exodus.net wrote:
> This makes the assumption that it is in the best interests of the internet
> for only profitable or business organizations to control the address space,
> and that the almighty (insert your favorite currency) is directly tied
> to the common good.
That is the assumption. While certainly not perfect, it's a much better
assumption than [insert your favorite government or government like
institution here] knows what's good for you or your organization better
than you do.
> This assumption is false. Capitalism suffers from a similar derivation of
> the root problem of socialism. In socialism, there is little or no
> incentive to achieve, thus productivity suffers. In capitalism, there
> is lots of incentive, but nothing ties that incentive to the common
> good or a long-term perspective. Thus, you end up with things like
> the polution in TX, supposed environmental groups killing fish to
> keep them on the endangered list, etc. I currently provide free services
> to a number of non-profit organizations. I would not be able to afford
> to do that if my address space were commodotized.
So you are saying that I and thousands of other organizations around the
world should be forced to provide you resources whether or not they agree
with your opinions, goals, or mission? If your for-free services are so
compelling, surely you wouldn't have any problem getting contributions
without resorting to governmental style force.
> The Internet is not a business. The Internet is a tool used by and provided
> by several businesses and other non-business organizations.
Wrong. There is no "Internet". There are only hundreds of organizations
connected together under various arrangements to create a large
interconnected infrastructure. A vast majority of those organizations are
for-profit businesses.
> Many other resources are not simply traded on the open market either.
> In fact, government rationing of scarce resources is hardly a new thing.
So since it has been proven not to work, we should continue to do it
because we fear change?
Brandon Ross 404-522-5400
EVP Engineering, NetRail http://www.netrail.net
AIM: BrandonNR ICQ: 2269442
Read RFC 2644!
