[30788] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: You are the backup
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Deepak Jain)
Wed Aug 30 21:34:34 2000
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 21:31:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Deepak Jain <deepak@ai.net>
To: "Derek J. Balling" <dredd@megacity.org>
Cc: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>, nanog@merit.edu
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For non critical pages we use internet email, and it beats dial pages
(when the internet & the mail servers are operating well) by about 15
seconds. (dial being about 20 seconds from hitting the "#" sign).
YMMV,
Deepak Jain
AiNET
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Derek J. Balling wrote:
>
> I actually had a paging company, when I was discussing "how do I get
> alpha pages to you", said "The internet is the primary method." They
> also indicated that they were preparing to retire their TAP servers
> as such method of out-of-band page delivery was "antiquated".
>
> I asked "If I am reporting a critical router failure via an
> alphanumeric pager, how would it get to you?" to which they
> responded "over the net of course". After drawing it out for them on
> a whiteboard, they finally understood the problem. Only after
> screaming loudly was I able to convince them that our mid-sized pager
> contract (couple hundred pagers) was going to vanish into thin air
> (at the time, our IXC was begging for it) if they made my TAP port
> vanish into thin air.
>
> They finally did decide that "hey, maybe that TAP port is useful for
> something after all", but I can't believe the amount of work it took
> to convince them that "internet delivery" is not always the
> end-all-be-all solution for all things.
>
> (not to mention that the TAP port averaged about 8 minutes faster on
> page delivery than bouncing through whatever internal mail servers we
> had and whatever systems they had)
>
> D
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>
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>
> At 5:46 PM -0700 8/30/00, Sean Donelan wrote:
> >Poking around the AP newswire for details on their satellite problems
> >yesterday I found AP retired their previous backup system. For most
> >AP customers the Internet is the primary backup. A few AP customers
> >also had ISDN or FAX backup.
> >
> >Whether folks tell us or not, the net seems to be included in more and
> >more backup plans.
>
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