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Re: ARIN Policy on IP-based Web Hosting

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bennett Todd)
Wed Aug 30 08:32:56 2000

Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 08:28:39 -0400
From: Bennett Todd <bet@rahul.net>
To: nanog@merit.edu
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2000-08-30-04:01:32 Peter van Dijk:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 10:43:08PM -0400, Bennett Todd wrote:
> > ftp can't be name-virtual-hosted. It is also such a wretched
> > protocol that it urgently needs to be retired in all settings for
> > all purposes.
>=20
> Theoretically, you could do the same with ftp as with pop3 - use
> usernames like 'user@domain.com'.

That doesn't help the perceived need among folks who insist on
supporting ftp; if they are selling a website www.naughtybits.dom
then they want to have a related ftp server ftp.naughtybits.dom. As
there's no way for the ftp server to tell which hostname the client
used to reach the IP addr, name virtual hosting doesn't make this
possible.

The big difference between pop (where logging in with
name@example.dom works fine for name virtual hosting) and ftp is
that pop is a private service, where some folks like to use ftp as a
public service without authentication.

I'd still put little weight on folks advocating and encouraging
the use ftp, but the same point can [sadly] be made much more
effectively with https. IP virtual hosts are where it's at for the
time being.

-Bennett

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