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Re: Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Shawn McMahon)
Tue Aug 22 15:48:14 2000

Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 15:44:38 -0400
From: Shawn McMahon <smcmahon@eiv.com>
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On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 02:37:01PM -0400, Barry Shein wrote:
>=20
> The problem is, other than hassling the honest this approach just
> doesn't work.
>=20
> I currently measure around 1,000 open relays PER DAY being used
> against us by spammers.

Remember, folks, MAPS are ORBS don't exist to stop spam; they exist to
cut down on the number of open relays, and thus make it:

1) More expensive to spam.

2) Easier to track spammers.


Any discussion of their effectiveness should take these goals into account.


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