[30548] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: An example
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Provo - Network Architect)
Fri Aug 11 07:18:31 2000
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 07:15:15 -0400
From: Joe Provo - Network Architect <joe.provo@rcn.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
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In-Reply-To: <000f01c00368$a0dd8c90$eaaf6cc7@PEREGRIN>; from rmeyer@mhsc.com on Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 12:49:07AM -0700
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On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 12:49:07AM -0700, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
> I post some negative messages about ORBS and RBL and look what
> happens! Gee, isn't it co-incidental that my mailer is now
> blocked?
[snip]
> the action of a responsible anti-spam fanatic then it is an even
> greater indictment of the entire RBL/ORBS movement.
[snip]
> But, this seriously indicates that this ORBS/RBL think is getting
> way out of hand. Typical vigilante pattern.
I am behind in the thread, but all I saw was the rightful panning of
ORBS. As usual, when this thread comes up, I'll point out that there is
a vast gulf of difference between whim-driven scanning (ORBS) and any of
the lists from *actual*abuse* (MAPS RBL and RSS) or volunteered
information from network mangers/direct observation (MAPS DUL). See
http://mail-abuse.org/ for full details.
Regardless what any spammers, lunatics on usenet, or press-release-
and mailing-list-post-regurgitating so-called journalists think, there
is no connection between the two. Do not lump them together, period.
Joe, saying all he will and pointing people to the archives for the last
N iterations of this holy war.
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Joe Provo Voice 508.486.7471
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