[30161] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: RFC 1918
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (ww@shadowfax.styx.org)
Mon Jul 17 12:20:03 2000
From: ww@shadowfax.styx.org
To: "Eric A. Hall" <ehall@ehsco.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 Jul 2000 08:51:32 PDT."
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Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 12:05:03 -0400
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Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
>>>>> "Eric" == Eric A Hall <ehall@ehsco.com> writes:
>> Imagine that you inherit a network where RFC1918 addresses are
>> used on most or all backbone links.
Eric> Imagine you inherit two of them, and they're both using
Eric> 10.1.x.x. That's the kind of trouble that end-users have as
Eric> well. When their networks are running 10.1.1.x and they get
Eric> ICMP messages from remote networks with that address, all
Eric> kinds of problems can occur.
Agreed.
Eric> When ISPs choose to mark their packets with Internet-illegal
Eric> addresses, they are contributing to these problems. Sorry,
Eric> but you're not supposed to be using these addresses anyway.
>> Because it's reasonably difficult to get real addresses from
>> ARIN
Eric> ARIN is absolutely the root cause of the 1918
Eric> problem. They're the principle driver behind the NAT market
Eric> by extension as well. If it weren't for their qualification
Eric> rules, the Internet would work a helluva lot better.
Looking at the BGP tables, I see lots of holes in the address space. A
particularly big one is almost a quarter of IPv4 space -- 65.0.0.0 -
126.255.255.255, which is listed as reserved by ARIN.
Since IPv6 can be seen on the horizon, maybe they should start
allocating some of this, and stop forcing people into problematic
situations like using RFC1918 addresses in the core by artificially
creating scarcity?
And what about 5.0.0.0/8 and 7/8 and 11/8 etc. that are all listed as
allocated but are not used. Due to the scarcity of this public
resource, should there not be some sort of "use it or lose it" policy?
Cheers,
-w
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