[29892] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: No, ORBS is a good tool [WAS: Alright, ORBS sucks - next topic,please ;) [was RE: RBL-type BGPservice for known rogue networks?]]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (JP Donnio)
Sun Jul 9 08:39:35 2000
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From: "JP Donnio" <ml-nanog@TBS-internet.com>
To: "Pim van Riezen" <pi@vuurwerk.nl>
Cc: "Peter van Dijk" <petervd@vuurwerk.nl>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 14:37:29 +0200
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pim van Riezen" <pi@vuurwerk.nl>
To: "JP Donnio" <ml-nanog@TBS-internet.com>
Cc: "Peter van Dijk" <petervd@vuurwerk.nl>; <nanog@merit.edu>
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: No, ORBS is a good tool [WAS: Alright, ORBS sucks - next
topic,please ;) [was RE: RBL-type BGPservice for known rogue networks?]]
> > Well we cannot really oppose this, who on this list is providing access
to
> > the entire whole internet? Obviously not abovenet. If they want to deny
> > traffic from the tester entering their network, why not. You should make
> > sure that no other traffic (your business) is hurt by this. Why not
setup an
> > AS with a /24 and run the tester from there? Or several of them in
diverse
> > locations.
>
> Problem is, we're just an ISP. So we'd have to get our uplinks to organize
> that. And since the purpose of the blackhole was beyond blocking the
> tester (they did have a similair block on the /32 of the tester, which was
> at least morally defendable), but rather to pressure us to take the thing
> offline, I'm afraid that moving it to another /24 will not make any
> difference, there'd still be 'retaliations' against the hosting ISP.
That's interesting. This would prove the Abovenet's behaviour is evil; if
they can filter on the /32 but choose to filter on the /24, they are morally
undefendable. Even ORBS opposers cannot support such behavior I guess!
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