[29821] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Chris)
Fri Jul 7 15:54:10 2000
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From: "Chris" <chris@bgpconsulting.com>
To: <nanog@merit.edu>, "Kai Schlichting" <kai@pac-rim.net>
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:42:43 -0400
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That is funny C&W has never had problems tracing attacks through there ATM
PVCs. Sounds to me like UUnet just doesn't want to.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kai Schlichting" <kai@pac-rim.net>
To: <nanog@merit.edu>
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 11:22 AM
Subject: RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks?
>
> At Friday 04:28 AM 7/7/00, Joe Shaw wrote:
>
> >UUNet's abuse department used to be the same way, especially during the
> >weekend. If you wanted to annoy the piss out of a UUNet dedicated line
> >customer, the weekend was the time to do it. I don't know if that's
> >changed now.
>
> Winds are shifting. One of the original spam floods that trigggered the
> creation of SpamShield, was from an Alternet dialup, and it took them
> a mere 10 minutes to shut that account off. That must have been a
different
> department at the time:
>
> Try being on the receiving end of a spoofed/randomized SYN/anything
> flood that doesn't exceed, say: 1Mbps and doesn't load UUnet's network
> so much. They won't even lift a damn finger and TRY to trace this back,
> supposedly because they can't trace it back through their ATM PVCs
> (an argument that has been backed up by other people I spoke to).
> They will happily charge you for the traffic though.
> A network design that doesn't allow tracing back spoofed traffic?
> Way to go, UUnet.
>
> And yes, I remember CenterTrack: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-9910/robert.html
,
> it just wasn't in production at the time - and I have no idea if it was
> ever deployed successfully.
>
> Now, lets watch Vijay rush to the defense of his, uhm, stock options.
>
>
>
