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Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Fri Jul 7 00:13:16 2000

Message-Id: <200007070211.e672BjS19562@black-ice.cc.vt.edu>
To: Steve Sobol <sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 06 Jul 2000 20:09:26 EDT."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
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On Thu, 06 Jul 2000 20:09:26 EDT, Steve Sobol said:
> The problem is, although judges are usually pretty good at
> making the right decision, there's no guarantee that if this
> issue went to trial, MAPS would win.

It was once explained to me, totally off the record, by <you know who
you are>, that the biggest legal issue was that although MAPS just provides
data, and the providers use that data to make decisions, there was a legal
question of whether that constituted "conspiracy to engage in restraint of
trade" against the sites listed.

The problem is, of course, that the *combination* of MAPS and a provider
*is* engaged in a conspiracy to restrain the spammers... ;)


-- 
				Valdis Kletnieks
				Operating Systems Analyst
				Virginia Tech


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