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Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Shawn McMahon)
Thu Jul 6 23:42:19 2000

Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:42:12 -0400
From: Shawn McMahon <smcmahon@eiv.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
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On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 07:35:19PM -0400, Mark Mentovai wrote:
>=20
> If break-ins is what you're trying to avoid, a blacklist would be a terri=
ble
> idea.  The proper way to prevent break-ins is not to block communications
> with certain sites, but to fix broken software and poorly configured syst=
ems
> so that any break-in attempts will be unsuccessful.  A blacklist would on=
ly
> encourage your would-be attacker to employ additional intermediaries,
> thereby potentially causing more damage for more people while making the
> ultimate source more difficult to trace.

If your attacker is somebody who decided he wanted in your site no matter w=
hat,
and is engaged in a concerted attack on specifically you, that might be tru=
e.

If your attacker is Joe Random Script Kiddie, who spotted you running Vulne=
rability
Of the Week and is trying the few exploits he could get to compile, you're
wrong.

The most effective anti-hacking measure I ever undertook was blocking the e=
ntire
=2Ekr domain in hosts.deny.

It cut attempts by more than 50%.

(Before anybody jumps on me, the network in question had no users with a le=
gitimate
need to connect from Korea, and your mileage almost assuredly varies.)


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