[29747] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Karyn Ulriksen)
Thu Jul 6 18:10:46 2000
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From: Karyn Ulriksen <kulriksen@publichost.com>
To: 'Mark Mentovai' <marklist@ggn.net>
Cc: "'nanog@merit.edu'" <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:13:28 -0700
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>You can play tricks with BGP to do this. Here's how MAPS RBL does it, and
>how you can use it:
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>http://www.mail-abuse.org/rbl/usage.html#BGP
>
>Mark
That's actually pretty clean, too. I haven't implemented a route server on
my networks. But I play around on Cerf Net's sometimes when I tracking down
BGP problems. What's the consensus on using one at the Tier 2 level?
Karyn
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Mentovai [mailto:marklist@ggn.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 1:23 PM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks?
Karyn Ulriksen wrote:
>What I was saying is that they had already set up some type of blackhole
>system that I was lead to believe they were doing at the router level (not
>mail system level). When they had us blackhole, we couldn't get past their
>core routers. I know your next thougt is that they just threw us into
their
>route filter, but my understanding is that they offered a service that you
>subscribed to and the updated the filter on the fly. Which sounds like it
>would work for what you may be looking for in the "kiddie script network"
>scenario (which I assume means either IRC crapola or DOS crapola in
general)
>or those wonderful .ru sites serving out that hardcore kiddie porn stuff
via
>cgi calls.
You can play tricks with BGP to do this. Here's how MAPS RBL does it, and
how you can use it:
http://www.mail-abuse.org/rbl/usage.html#BGP
Mark
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