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Re: attention net-grrls

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Danielle Vogedes)
Fri Jun 9 21:41:42 2000

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Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 20:38:29 -0500
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From: Danielle Vogedes <hvn@wildstar.net>
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A time came when I wondered if my unease at being referred to by my
coworkers as "knowing some things .. but not much" was justified. I
searched out some lists for 'women in tech' - no answers there, but
a hella lot of crummy recipes ... And the attitude follows me still
to a new job, and by the time they discover that I'm actually a valuable
resource I'm so disgusted by the comparatively rotten regard that it
becomes yet another unhappiness.

There are numerous other war stories, but suffice to say that if
there's a chance that a somewhat serious forum is forming along
those lines ... I doubt I'd consider it if I'd not seen it here.

At 01:01 PM 6/9/00 -0700, you wrote:

>         I don't want to start a flamewar here, and I don't really care
>         that much myself, but I'd just like to point out that if anyone
>         started a "men in networking" list, they'd be immediately flamed
>         and lambasted by people of both sexes.

Agreed 100%. I can't speak for the list owners, but I'd think that
was absurd if there was a concentrated effort to deny subscribers
of any kind.

However, gripes about women's issues on this list would not be tolerated,
nor should they. Perhaps the listowner/s had this in mind?

- danielle



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