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Re: OT: net-loss (was RE: attention net-grrls)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Adrian Chadd)
Fri Jun 9 13:08:18 2000

Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 01:05:41 +0800
From: Adrian Chadd <adrian@creative.net.au>
To: rdobbins@netmore.net
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
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On Fri, Jun 09, 2000, rdobbins@netmore.net wrote:
> 
> 
> Gee, I thought that IP, BGP, DNS, ACLs, and so on worked the same for women
> as for men.  
> 
> One of the main reasons I'm on this list is to learn from the experiences
> and expertise of others - male -and- female.  
> 
> You're of course free to do as you wish, but I personally think the whole
> idea of a 'Women in Networking' list is absurd, revanchist, and sexist (to
> use the politically correct terminology currently in vogue amongst those who
> claim to be striving for 'equality', yet who seem to do everything they can
> to claim that they themselves have 'special needs' and so on, which of
> course undermines the rationale their supposedly egalitarian agenda).  
> 
> Technology works the same for everyone, regardless of gender, race, creed,
> or color; that's one of the beautiful things about it.  Consciously erecting
> artificial boundaries where none need exist strikes me as being laughably
> archaic, and ultimately counterproductive.
> 
> But, hey, what do I know?  After all, I'm just a member of the oppressive
> patriachy, dedicated to keeping females barefoot, naked, and in the
> wiring-closet, right?  Talk about your stereotyping.
> 
> Sorry for the rant, but this sort of thing strikes me as being inimical to
> the spirit of the Net in general, and this list in particular.  I'll shut
> up, now.

You could argue that all artificial boundaries that exist are counter-
prductive. I think the whole point behind this women in networking list
is just to create another fun social group. Thats why these lists
exist. I doubt that the members of this list are going to conspire
against us.

Yet.

:-P



Adrian

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<adrian@creative.net.au>	rest of the evening. Set a man on fire and
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