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Re: Worldly Thoughts - Regionalizing Peering

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Erik Sherk)
Mon May 13 10:16:09 1996

To: Alan Hannan <alan@gi.net>
cc: nanog@merit.edu, sherk@uunet.uu.net
In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 11 May 1996 19:24:03 CDT."
             <199605120024.TAA10593@westie.gi.net> 
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 10:02:24 -0400
From: Erik Sherk <sherk@uunet.uu.net>

> 
>   The model scales well, imho.  Regionalize your network into
>   pieces.  Apply each of the pieces into 1 or more proximities to a
>   NAP|MAE.
> 
>   Apply set filter lists onto peering sessions for appropriate
>   peers.
> 
>   Let me expound.
> 
>   I run Internet-Net.net.  I have a POP in every city w/ over 10,000
>   people.
> 
>   I aggregate M number of POPs to N number of Hubs.
> 
>   (use acronym NXP to mean network exchange point.....)
> 
>   I am connected to P number of NXPs.
> 
>   I go through each of my N Hubs, and identify if he is
>   or is not in Pn's region.  If he is, I add NXPn's peers to the
>   allow list.  If he's not, I don't.
> 
>   Won't this work?  Is it "too confusing"?
> 
>   Let's say I have 1 HUB in Arizona.  I decide that they are in the
>   region of MAE-W, PACBELL, and the NXP in Phoenix.  So, I accept
>   routes from everyone at any of those NXPs, and I give my routes
>   for this HUB only, to everyone at the NXP.  I don't tell them
>   about my route to customers homed to San Mateo, because I don't
>   want to carry their traffic there, only stuff that's topolgically
>   'close' to them, as I feel that benefit to my customers is worth
>   the peering relationship.

Unless you were precient when you allocated your CIDR blocks, this means
that you will not be able to aggregate your networks.

Erik

 
>   I have a HUB in San Mateo.  I decide that he's in the region of
>   MAE-W and PACBELL and MAE-LA, but not the NXP in Phoenix.  So, I
>   accept routes from the folks at those NXPs, and only give the
>   routes for my folks homed to my San Mateo HUB.  My San Mateo
>   Customers get to the folks at the NXP, and the other providers
>   customers get to my customers CLOSE to the NXP in San Mateo.
>   However, I don't have to backhaul them to another larger
>   aggragation point, or to another NXP at which I hand off packets
>   to their transit provider.
> 
>   Benefit:  I gain low latency transit to most everyone.
> 
>   Drawback:  It is technically challenging to create an automate
>   system to regionalize and create appropriate filter lists.
> 
> ----
> 
>   Perhaps this is a problem that's only challenging to the smaller
>   folks, those of us w/out the nationwide DS3|OC3 networks.
>   However, I do feel it's a worthy problem, and one that would
>   benefit the NANOG community were it intelligently solved.
> 
>   -a

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