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Re: illicit above.net announcements?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Vixie)
Thu Jun 1 21:32:59 2000

To: nanog@merit.edu
From: Paul Vixie <vixie@mibh.net>
Date: 01 Jun 2000 18:30:03 -0700
In-Reply-To: kai@pac-rim.net's message of "1 Jun 2000 09:14:53 -0700"
Message-ID: <g3ya4oooo4.fsf@redpaul.mibh.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


kai@pac-rim.net (Kai Schlichting) writes:

> Anyone here who is on the Vienna/London/Amsterdam exchange(s) and
> who is seeing what is alleged here: above.net leaking and/or
> flapping routes that are not their own ?

Abovenet receives /16's from a customer, who is the upstream of Manawatu.
Abovenet duly advertises these /16's to its other customers, and its peers.

Abovenet also blocks all traffic to/from ORBS, due to AUP violations.
Manawatu is ORBS's provider.  Abovenet has done nothing to interfere with
the /24 cutouts Alan is describing below.

re:

> >Delivered-To: majordom-abusespamtools-out@xuxa.iecc.com
> >Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 04:13:23 +1200 (NZST)
> >From: Alan Brown <alan@manawatu.gen.nz>
> >X-Sender: alanb@mailhost.manawatu.net.nz
> >To: Kai Schlichting <kai@conti.nu>
> >cc: spamtools@abuse.net
> >Subject: Re: [spamtools] Re: spamtools-digest V2 #326
> >Sender: owner-spamtools@abuse.net
> >Reply-To: spamtools@abuse.net
> >
> >On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Kai Schlichting wrote:
> >
> > > Hmm, please give me a list of the routes advertised as well as the
> > > peering points this was or is seen at.
> >
> >Vienna Internet Exchange.
> >
> >London Internet Exchange.
> >
> >Amsterdam Internet Exchange.
> >
> >Routes are 202.36.147/24, 202.36.148/24 and 202.50.71/24 ie superblocks
> >of the same.
> >
> > > Any exchange that is more
> > > than a backroom operation in someone's closet has a policy prohibiting
> > > such unauthorized announcements. I will assume for now that these
> > > are route leaks that are escaping through above.net's BGP distribution
> > > filters: something that is entirely within the real of possibility,
> > > but which has to be stopped.
> >
> >My suppliers refuse to stop advertising the /16s containing my netblocks
> >into above.net - but claim to have set up /24 adverts into their other
> >suppliers.
> >
> >Unfortunately, those /24 adverts appear to be flapping. <sarcasm>I
> >wonder who could be causing that and why they'd do it? </sarcasm>
> >
> >AB
> 
> 
> ---

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Paul Vixie <vixie@mibh.net>
SVP for Internet Services, MFNX

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