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Re: ABOVE.NET SECURITY TRUTHS?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hank Nussbacher)
Sun Apr 30 02:30:23 2000

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Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 09:27:17 +0200
To: "Alec H. Peterson" <ahp@hilander.com>,
	Paul Froutan <pfroutan@rackspace.com>
From: Hank Nussbacher <hank@att.net.il>
Cc: rmeyer@mhsc.com, nanog@merit.edu
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At 15:06 28/04/00 -0600, Alec H. Peterson wrote:
>
>Paul Froutan wrote:
>> 
>> I don't think you can.  However, I use TACACS on all my switches and
>> routers.  From what I know, TACACS passwords are encrypted using the key on
>> your network devices and the TACACS server.  So, that, in combination with
>> a private management LAN not accessible by your customers should lock down
>> your network pretty effectively.  Any comments?
>
>Using TACACS+ with some sort of one-time-passwording works very well.

TACACS encryption won't help if you follow the Cisco Essential IOS Features
(v 2.82 - Feb 18, 2000).  On page 45 they discuss router command auditing
and recommend:

aaa accounting command 15 start-stop tacacs+

Unfortunately, this will log in your syslog the password commands in
cleartext.  You would have to be sure that the Unix/NT system you are
logging all Cisco commands to is as secure as your router.  How many of you
run ISS/Cybercop/Netrecon scans every week on your logging servers to be
sure they are secure?

"aaa accounting command 15 start-stop tacacs+" can be considered an
unintentional backdoor for many.

I informed the Cisco authors when it was published to issue a document patch.

-Hank

>
>Alec
>
>-- 
>Alec H. Peterson - ahp@hilander.com
>Staff Scientist
>CenterGate Research Group - http://www.centergate.com
>"Technology so advanced, even _we_ don't understand it!"
>
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