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Re: Peering Table Question

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hank Nussbacher)
Mon Apr 24 03:37:23 2000

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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:32:14 +0200
To: Christian Nielsen <cnielsen@nielsen.net>,
	Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
From: Hank Nussbacher <hank@att.net.il>
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At 13:28 19/04/00 -0600, Christian Nielsen wrote:

The Oct 1999 issue of Data Communications (RIP), had a comprehensive
article about peering:

http://www.data.com/issue/991007/peering.html

They detailed private and public peering (see their tables).  They did it
using MIDS which did 1.2 million traceroutes from various beacons located
thruout the Internet.

Very easy to determine who is a tier-1 and tier-2 ISP.

-Hank

>
>On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Randy Bush wrote:
>
>> >   To further complicate matters, many networks out there
>> >   are mis-representing themselves as [cost-free-] peering
>> >   with other networks when they are actually customers, or
>> >   in some type of 'settlement' arrangement.
>> 
>> i contend that one can count the true tier one networks on the fingers
>> of two hands.
>
>is a network tier one if they have settlement based peering? or is it just a
>network that sees no transit routes from any one company?
>
>christian
>
>
>


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