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Re: router interfaces

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dana Hudes)
Mon Apr 10 23:06:39 2000

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From: "Dana Hudes" <dhudes@panix.com>
To: "Chris Cappuccio" <chris@dqc.org>,
	"Andrew Brown" <atatat@atatdot.net>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:04:28 -0400
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Any router with an ATM or Frame Relay interface is going to have lots =
and lots of sub-interfaces.
In provider-customer connections the usual process is to have a /30 and =
the interface is operating in point-point VC mode.
I'm sure folks aggregating onto Frame Relay HSSI from a WAN switch are =
putting more than 50 T1 worth on. I'd hope not since one is paying for =
that T1 but oversubscribing is the game.
So certainly I would expect to see hundreds of interfaces. I'm not =
talking about secondary IP addresses.
On an OC-3 ATM -- I can certainly trunk lots of customers to a single =
BCN with 3 OC-3 interfaces
(dumping that traffic is another problem unless you want Gigabit =
Ethernet or multiple Fast Ethernet full-duplex)

----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Chris Cappuccio" <chris@dqc.org>
To: "Andrew Brown" <atatat@atatdot.net>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: router interfaces


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> This really depends on what software the router is using and how =
optimized it
> is
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> You can easily have thousands of loopback (or other virtual =
interfaces) on a
> PC router running a free OS.  The performance you will get depends on =
how the
> OS handles routing tables and interfaces in the kernel!!!
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> As far as max next-hop gateways, this should only be limited by the =
limits of
> the routing table.
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> On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Andrew Brown wrote:
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>  |=20
>  | while arguing routing with a friend of mine, we got to the point =
where
>  | the number of interfaces on a router was a point of contention.  =
now
>  | certainly routing depends not only on the number of interfaces a
>  | router has, but also on the number of next-hop gateways it need to
>  | keep track of.
>  |=20
>  | that said, i'd like to just ask: what's the largest number of
>  | interfaces anyone has on any of their routers?  i was arguing that
>  | high end routes would probably have maybe a few hundred.  my friend
>  | was arguing in terms of theoretical limits and thought it was more
>  | like tens of thousands.
>  |=20
>  | max interfaces?  max next-hop gateways?
>  |=20
>  | thanks.
>  |=20
>  | --=20
>  | |-----< "CODE WARRIOR" >-----|
>  | codewarrior@daemon.org             * "ah!  i see you have the =
internet
>  | twofsonet@graffiti.com (Andrew Brown)                that goes =
*ping*!"
>  | andrew@crossbar.com       * "information is power -- share the =
wealth."
>  |=20
>  |=20
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> ---
> Reverend Chris Cappuccio
> http://www.dqc.org/~chris/
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