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Re: peering wars revisited? PSI vs Exodus

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven M. Bellovin)
Wed Apr 5 09:34:15 2000

From: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@research.att.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: Ehud Gavron <GAVRON@aces.com>, nanog@merit.edu
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Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 09:31:09 -0400
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In message <200004050511.e355BQp31490@black-ice.cc.vt.edu>, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt
.edu writes:
> 
> On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 21:16:55 PDT, Ehud Gavron said:
> > Your list of people below are already emailing me to
> > say "no no, we just gave him info"
> > 
> > You're not journalist.
> 
> (I'm assuming here that Gordon starts off with "Hi, I'm Gordon Cook,
> with the Cook Report", and not social-engineering with false names etc ;)
> 
> Umm.. given the list of names for 1998 through 2000, and the fact that
> I *know* that at least some of them were aware of what Gordon writes
> when they gave him info, I think it's safe to conclude that at least
> a good fraction of Gordon's listed sources were giving him information
> fully aware of where it was going to end up.  If you tell somebody info
> knowing it's going into a well-publicized newsletter, you're talking to
> a journalist.  It may not be Tom Brokaw, but it's a journalist. ;)

Absolutely.  As one of the people Gordon interviewed, there was and is no 
doubt in my mind that he's a journalist.  In fact, I know of no reasonable 
definition of the term that would exclude him -- he gathers information and 
publishes it.

Yes, Gordon expresses opinions -- but the set "columnist" is a  subset of the 
set "journalist".  Yes, I (and many others on this list) often disagree with 
his viewpoint.  So what?  

		--Steve Bellovin




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