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Message-ID: <38D786A1.3DA27E54@bexair.com> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:26:41 -0500 From: "Scott McGrath" <s_mcgrath@bexair.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fkittred@sss1.gwi.net, nanog@merit.edu Cc: Thomas Novak <kavon@apk.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu I am glad that I am not the only person who dreams in IOS! Fletcher E Kittredge wrote: > On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 19:44:28 -0500 Thomas Novak wrote: > > > > If you are looking at CNR and are running in a cable modem > > > > Have you inquired/looked at the Cisco CSRC product for provisioning it? > > > > You might want to look at CNR as it is part of the CSRC solution for > > provisioning/managing not only Cisco but any DOCSIS compliant cable modem > > Thanks for your suggestion Thomas! We have tested, evaluated and used > CSRC in production. We think that tftp still works pretty well. > > Different applications need different tools. The right tool for a > large business which is not an ISP is not necessarily the right tool > for an ISP. It can be a high quality tool for a non-ISP, and not be > right for an ISP. > > I have noticed over the last 15 years, the rise of the assumption that > GUIs (or in the last 7 the web interface) are useful under a wide > variety of circumstances and are always better than command line or > API interfaces. For some set of high value clients, a GUI or web > interface, if it adds bugs, is actually a negative. > > For people like us, we want efficient, reliable service components > with clean, clearly documented APIs. Our job is to build reliable > systems with high performance integration with other system > components, such as metering, monitoring and billing systems. In > general, GUIs are for untrained and casual users. I like these for > things like Visio and Spreadsheets which are not core applications for > me. If you are working with tens of thousands of simultaneous > connections, you better not be maintaining your DHCP records and > DOCSIS configurations with a GUI! > > Once again, I would draw the analogy with Cisco's (or > Livingston,Xyzel,Bay,etc,etc,insert router vendor here) "router > configuration GUI". If router configuration is tangential to your > core business, you probably use one of these. If router configuration > is your core business, I bet you dream in IOS command line syntax from > time to time. > > Any how, I sincerely appreciate all the input I have recieved from all > of you. It has been generally high quality yet colorful, like most > NANOG discussions. I am sorry if my initial request for feedback > seemed flippant. While I do hope the bug count for CSRC/CNR goes > down, I would guess that for a large market segment, it is the best > tool. For us, we will stick with the ISC DNS/DHCP/tftp suite. > > regards, > fletcher
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