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Re: Hi, we're from the government and we're here to help

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick Greenwell)
Tue Mar 14 22:52:44 2000

Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:47:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Patrick Greenwell <patrick@cybernothing.org>
To: Chris Brenton <cbrenton@sover.net>
Cc: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, nanog@merit.edu
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Chris Brenton wrote:

> 
> Randy Bush wrote:
> > 
> > centralization has generally not scaled well on the internet.  heck, even
> > cert used to be quite useful.  then the problem grew a bit too much.
> 
> The problem grew too much or the organization didn't keep up with the
> times? 
> 
> Back when CERT was started there was no Bugtraq, NTBugtraq, Incidents,
> etc. mailing lists. Today its these resources that are getting the word
> out the quickest with the greatest level of detail. Don't see CERT doing
> anything any different today than they did 5-7 years ago. The difference
> is that these other groups are doing it quicker so the perception is
> that CERT is less effective.

That's a one to many issue. NOC to NOC is a many to many problem.


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