[27759] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Hi, we're from the government and we're here to help
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sean Donelan)
Sat Mar 11 01:23:40 2000
Date: 10 Mar 2000 22:21:39 -0800
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From: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>
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On Fri, 10 March 2000, "Kelly J. Cooper" wrote:
> THEN the next big thing comes along, people get scared, the
> consortia suddenly get well-attended, NEW groups spring up,
> the community starts complaining again and the cycle is
> renewed. That is, until people get bored again, or budgets
> change or the NEXT big thing that comes along has nothing
> to do with security.
>
> This cycle is old. I know I'm bored with it.
A very good summary of past cycles. There is no lack of
groups. But I certainly don't have time or funding to attend
meetings of all these groups, or even the groups that will
have me as a member. And I definitely don't think the solution
is creating yet another group.
> So now what?
>
> How do you propose to cull the wheat from the chaff? Get all
> the right information about what ISPs are trying to do, and
> going into the lab to test, and researching into the right
> ears (of other ISPs)? How are you going to get the right
> people to speak and the wrong people to shut up for a few
> minutes?
>
> Because if it was just as easy as kicking in a few bucks to
> yet another consortium, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
I think a paid professional secretariat is mandatory. But costs
a lot of money.
It can't be a stand-alone consortium, but must be part of a larger
industry group to handle the inevitable cycles of interest.
It must be composed of a critical mass of industry. Groups with less
than a thirty or so members tend to stagnate.
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