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Re: More route-table bloat vs. ARIN micro-allocations

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (I Am Not An Isp)
Sat Feb 19 06:24:51 2000

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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 03:16:11 -0800
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From: I Am Not An Isp <patrick@ianai.net>
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At 01:27 AM 2/19/00 -0700, John M. Brown wrote:
 >
 >Yes, 3561 is one of our transit.  This isn't about what filters we have
 >or don't have.  its about the fact that from my view there are some
 >announcements
 >that really shouldn't be on the net in the first place.

The point is, those /27s, /30s and /32s are *not* on the 'Net, they are 
internal to C&W.  You should not condemn the global table because C&W leaks 
specifics to their customers.

Those other routes - like 64/8, AS7046, etc. - *are* on the global table 
and should be cleaned up.  But no one seems to care about that any more.

I find it amusing that some people who argue against micro-allocations say 
nothing about this added waste.  Hypocrisy always amuses me.  (It has to or 
it would piss me off.)


 >Some providers (some of our other transits) provide a cleaner table.

They probably put the same "sanity" filters on their customers that they 
put on their peers.  I used to do that (when I had enable :).


 >Personally it seems many BGP folks are lazy and don't keep things clean....

That, my friend, is and has been obvious for many years. :)


 >I thought patrick got enabled?  I know if I keep this up, I will loose it :)

Got it, configured a few routers, changed positions, lost it.  Now I go 
around buying other ISPs instead of configuring routers on my own network.

Am I automatically wrong because I do not have enable?  Many probably think 
so.  Maybe they are right. :)


TTFN,
patrick

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