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RE: Yahoo offline because of attack (was: Yahoo network outage)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Roeland M.J. Meyer)
Wed Feb 9 04:13:55 2000

From: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
To: "Jim Mercer" <jim@reptiles.org>
Cc: "Joe Shaw" <jshaw@insync.net>,
	"Paul Ferguson" <ferguson@cisco.com>,
	"Declan McCullagh" <declan@wired.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 01:09:14 -0800
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You can differ all you want, but I've never seen a large .COM deployment
without at least one senior SA swinging the clue-bat, backed up by a network
planner and a senior architect. How do you think they write all that code
and have it work? DEsign is much more difficult than maintenance and takes
more skilled personel

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Mercer [mailto:jim@reptiles.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 12:59 AM
> To: Roeland M.J. Meyer
> Cc: Joe Shaw; Paul Ferguson; Declan McCullagh; nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Re: Yahoo offline because of attack (was: Yahoo network outage)
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 12:02:34AM -0800, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
> > No one trusts the operation
> > of a $1.5M Sun e6500 by a group of rookies. They can probably
> afford to hire
> > the best SA's that they can find and no one running equipment behind
> > anything larger than a T1 can afford to hire the ignorant. Not
> at the prices
> > charged for that size of a pipe.
>
> i beg to differ.
>
> i've seen a large number of .com's which have mega gear, and
> minor-league SA's.
>
> the problem is that alot of .com's seem to think that the vendor
> will be able
> to solve their serious problems, or that they can just hire some
> "certified"
> SA's to do the job.
>
> --
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