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Re: inter-NOC communications (was:Re: Definition of Congestion)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steve Meuse)
Mon Jan 31 23:33:30 2000

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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 23:30:01 -0500
To: "dave o'leary" <doleary@juniper.net>
From: Steve Meuse <smeuse@bbnplanet.com>
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At 03:30 PM 01/31/2000 -0800, dave o'leary wrote:


>Attempts to "standardize" inter-NOC communication happened a couple of
>times in the early 90's in the IETF, but it got too ugly, with too many
>barriers (basically people not wanting to expose dirty laundry).  I fear
>that attempts to do so now when the providers are *really* competing with
>each other (as opposed to back in the old daze when we were all
>friends :-) will suffer the same fate, other than on a pairwise basis between
>NOCs that cooperate well with each other anyway.
>
>                                                 dave

I have to chuckle reading this thread.

We can't even get our NOCs to talk to each other, and Marketing people 
think we can do Inter-Provider QOS??

Hopefully I will have retired at an early age before we burn that bridge :)


-Steve




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