[26749] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Vixie)
Fri Jan 14 21:47:35 2000
To: nanog@merit.edu
From: Paul Vixie <vixie@mibh.net>
Date: 14 Jan 2000 18:44:29 -0800
In-Reply-To: smcmahon@eiv.com's message of "13 Jan 2000 16:00:39 -0800"
Message-ID: <g366wwcauq.fsf@redpaul.mibh.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
> > Nope, they'll list anyone who blocks them, regardless of open
> > relay status.
>
> If that's true, they're going too far, and won't be able to become
> widespread enough to matter.
Right. MAPS narrowly dodged that same bullet several times in the early days,
and both ORBS and IMRSS were created as direct responses to our well-learned
conservatism about who we will blackhole and why.
> That's a damn shame.
Not really. Failure is a natural consequence of any nonscalable activity.
--
Paul Vixie <vixie@mibh.net>
>> But what *IS* the internet?
> It's the largest equivalence class in the reflexive transitive
> symmetric closure of the relationship "can be reached by an IP
> packet from". --Seth Breidbart
