[26684] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alex P. Rudnev)
Thu Jan 13 15:08:39 2000
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:57:58 +0300 (MSK)
From: "Alex P. Rudnev" <alex@virgin.relcom.eu.net>
To: Garlic <garlic@garlic.com>
Cc: I Am Not An Isp <patrick@ianai.net>, nanog@merit.edu
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This allow me to repeat - don't bother about ORBS, no one serious can use this
service because it cause the missing of the important mail -:). Than let's they
are doing troubles to those who want this troubles.
My policy was always the same - if someone yse ORBS, we never promise to deliver
e-mail for him. I guess this policy exists yet.
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Garlic wrote:
> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:35:31 -0800
> From: Garlic <garlic@garlic.com>
> To: I Am Not An Isp <patrick@ianai.net>
> Cc: nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS
>
>
>
> ORBS does seem to have this policy although it is not on their web site.
>
> I Am Not An Isp wrote:
>
> > At 12:18 PM 1/13/00 -0500, Harald Koch wrote:
> > >
> > >Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, "Sehmel, William C."
> > >had to walk into mine and say:
> > >>
> > >> Got this from bugtraq.
> > >
> > >Alot of us did. I thought about posting it to nanog, but then I actually
> > >researched the issue a bit, and discovered that securityfocus' listerver is
> > >*not* in the ORBS database at this time.
> > >
> > >Sounds like FUD to me.
> >
> > patrick@pts/0.ns2/10:40AM# nslookup www.orbs.org
> > Server: localhost
> > Address: 127.0.0.1
> >
> > Non-authoritative answer:
> > Name: www.orbs.org
> > Address: 202.36.148.16
> >
> > Traceroute Output
> >
> > FROM www.above.net TO 202.36.148.16.
> >
> > traceroute to 202.36.148.16 (202.36.148.16): 1-30 hops, 38 byte packets
> > 1 gate-96.main.sjc.above.net (207.126.96.189) 1.21/2.28/3.5 (0.612)
> > ms 10/10 pkts (0% loss)
> > 2 core1-main.sjc.above.net (209.133.31.153) *
> > !H * * * * * 2.9/2.9/2.9 (0.0) ms 1/7 pkts (86% loss)
> >
> > Above.Net really is filtering ORBS. And if ORBS lists people who block
> > them.....
> >
> > >Harald Koch <chk@pobox.com>
> >
> > TTFN,
> > patrick
> >
> > --
> > I Am Not An Isp - www.ianai.net
> > ISPF, The Forum for ISPs by ISPs, <http://www.ispf.com>
> > "Think of it as evolution in action." - Niven & Pournelle
> > (OhMyGod - Watch out 'Net, I got enable again! ;-)
>
>
>
Aleksei Roudnev,
(+1 415) 585-3489 /San Francisco CA/
