[26607] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Derek J. Balling)
Sun Jan 9 20:23:24 2000
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 17:20:23 -0800
To: Dean Anderson <dean@av8.com>, owen@delong.com (Owen DeLong),
fischer@sacred.net, owen@dixon.delong.sj.ca.us, william@dso.net,
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From: "Derek J. Balling" <dredd@megacity.org>
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"Clearly" many companies have found that 'outsourcing dialup adds a
layer of necessary security to the mail server', so instead of just
opening their mail servers to the world, they have found a cost of
doing business that way is a slight inconvenience in the way mail is
sent, either via POP-before-SMTP, or via having the user use their
local dialup's SMTP server.
TANSTAAFL, Dean. You want the cheap convenience of outsourced dialup,
the price is that securing the mail server requires a little effort.
If you don't want that hassle, then you put in your own dialups.
This is not quantum physics, this is simply a cheaper solution not
necessarily being an EASIER solution. You want Cheap and Easy which
doesn't happen.
D
At 5:15 PM -0500 1/9/00, Dean Anderson wrote:
>Around 05:28 PM 1/8/2000 -0800, rumor has it that Owen DeLong said:
> >
> >Noone has disputed that relays are necessary.
> >
> >I am as yet unconvinced that open relays are necessary.
>
>Thats nonsensical. Clearly, if one is going to offer outsourced services
>for which relays are necessary, one must operate open relays.
>
> --Dean
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