[26288] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ORBS block
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (J.D. Falk)
Sat Dec 18 17:24:35 1999
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 14:23:20 -0800
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@cybernothing.org>
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On 12/18/99, Derek Balling <dredd@megacity.org> wrote:
> Anyone can do whatever he wants with his/her mail server.
>
> The Network Operator can do whatever he wants with his network, BUT if the
> network provider has downstream customers, paying for internet
> connectivity, and the operator filters out part of that connectivity, then
> the operator has voided the contract (by filtering out a portion of the
> network the downstream may consider "important") in a manner that allows
> the downstream to bail out of any such contract. (I think such a filter
> could be considered "materially altering the service provided" although IANAL).
>
> I think that's the gist of things from what I've seen...
Yup, we've seen those arguments before. It seems common for
the operator of said network or server to say "I can do any
damned thing I please," and users or customers to whine "no
you can't!" without reading the contract.
Truth is, in most contracts, the folks who own and operate
the equipment can do whatever they please, and if their down-
stream users/customers/wankers/whatever don't like it they
can find another provider.
Personally, as long as policies are clearly spelled out, I
have no problem with that.
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