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Re: ORBS block

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tim Wolfe)
Fri Dec 17 11:54:48 1999

Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 08:49:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Tim Wolfe <tim@clipper.net>
To: "Greg A. Woods" <woods@weird.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
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On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Greg A. Woods wrote:

> > access-list 104 deny ip 202.36.148.5 0.0.0.255 any
> > access-list 104 deny ip 202.36.147.16 0.0.0.255 any
> 
> If I were anywhere near any network doing that I would consider it to be
> theft of service by the network operator.

Greg,

If Provider X wants to listen to Dean's loony conspiracy theories and block
ORBS from going through their network, how is that thef of service?  That
would only be true if ORBS pays Provider X for some type of service and then
they could fall back to whatever options (arbitration, etc) that their
contract allows.

Dean,

Get off your ass and put your own damn filters on your own router.  If you
can't do that for a technical reason, just add a bogus route on your mail
server to those IPs.  If you can't do it for a lack of competency reason,
which seems infinitely more plausible at this point, please hire someone
with a clue to do it for you.

I speak only for myself and my dog.

Thanks,

-- Tim

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