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Re: How to achieve application reliability

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James Smith)
Sun Dec 5 03:53:03 1999

Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 02:05:21 -0500 (EST)
From: James Smith <jsmith@dxstorm.com>
To: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>
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You got it! It's those darn application programmers! :-)  Realistically it
would make sense for browsers to try alternate DNS info, but I guess
there's no crying over spilt milk.


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James Smith, CCNA
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On 4 Dec 1999, Sean Donelan wrote:

> 
> On Sat, 04 December 1999, James Smith wrote:
> > internetsecure to type in the credit card.  The problem with Round-Robin
> > DNS is the possibility of the consumer's web browser picking up an IP
> > address of a server that is down.  If it was a real payment gateway, your
> 
> Finally, a problem I can agree with.  Netscape's browser did some interesting
> things for application reliability when accessing home.netscape.com.  But for
> other web sites it seems to be one strike and you're out.  Other browsers
> followed their lead.  Actually, I think Mosiac was first, so the programmer
> meme was already formed.  The original CERN web browser did try alternate A
> records.  The CERN browser had a problem handling interrupts when the user
> got tired of waiting, so the Mosaic "error-recovery" method of the user
> clicking on refresh until it finally worked seemed like an improvement.
> 
> The law of unintended consequences?
> 
> The application programmers will say its the networks fault.  The network
> engineers will say its the applications fault.  And the user says a pox
> on all your houses.
> 
> 
> 
> 



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